That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

  • circuitfarmer
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    Is there a Microsoft product that isn’t?

    To be fair, Teams is pretty bad even for MS. I’ve never seen something do so relatively little and still perform so poorly. When I switched jobs and got to use Slack it was like a great fog being lifted off of my being.

      • circuitfarmer
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        Ah yes, you’re right.

        I guess a better qualifier might be: closed-source Microsoft products tend overwhelmingly to suck.

      • @chakan2@lemmy.world
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        VS Code is OK if you can’t afford the JetBrains ultimate subscription. I never want to see a VS Code launch configuration again.

          • @chakan2@lemmy.world
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            Agreed…the community editions of their tools are solid, but if you’re doing cloud stuff, get your company to pay for it. It blows VS Code out of the water.

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            Ehh, it’s ok in the case of JetBrains - if your subscription lapses your license converts to a ‘perpetual fallback license’ so can just continue using the version you installed when the subscription was originally purchased.

            I’m using a 4 year old version of PhpStorm with no issues and no subscription. My PyCharm sub ended 6 months ago and I’m staying on the 2023 version of PyCharm because the latest version comes with lots of AI which makes my CPU fans scream continuously.

      • @GreenSofaBed@lemmy.zip
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        They’ve been cramming random stuff in that though that’s making it more laggy. Recently switched to Zed and it’s so much faster.

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        TypeScript isn’t terrible. It’s extra work to set up, but it makes JavaScript codebases somewhat more maintainable.

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        Some C/C++ extension process once reduced my laptop to a crawl, and I couldn’t close VS Code, so I killed the process through the task manager, simple enough, right?

        Long story short, I started smelling burning plastic and saw that, somehow, there was no VS Code process, but the extension had a separate process that was still running at full speed doing idk what. I almost burned myself when I picked up my laptop. So I’m not very happy when I see VS Code

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          Your laptop caught fire while running vs code it had nothing to do with it, it doesn’t have a “burn my laptop” function.

      • circuitfarmer
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        Excel?! Have to respectfully disagree on that one.

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            Excel is great.
            It does so much that people make it do what it shouldn’t, and never think to explore technologies beyond it… Like a proper fucking database.
            Then you get garbage business systems based on fragile excel sheets with bonkers macros and weird ETL pipelines to sync things.
            And never try to deal with dates and timezones.

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              And never try to deal with dates and timezones.

              Or anything that looks like dates.

              Gene scientists had to revise their whole naming scheme because Excel would see MARCH1 (Membrane-Associated Ring-CH-Finger Type 1), and ‘helpfully’ convert it into a date, rendering it useless (since it uses timestamps on the backend).

              It’s bad enough that my data science course recommended against opening CSV files in Excel, because it would edit the file to do the conversion, even before you explicitly saving, mangling your data before you could process it.

            • @lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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              Reminds me of my last job where I had to build a ridiculously complex excel spreadsheet that I copied a bunch of reports into to do scheduling because someone decided I didn’t need access to the actual data…

          • circuitfarmer
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            It’s an awful mix of half-assed approaches to things. Awkward syntax on everything and very poor at recognizing what types of data it is handling.

            Open a CSV in a fresh Excel install. It will almost certainly mistake something for a date if the CSV is sufficiently large (unless the user is exceedingly explicit at changing settings for that particular CSV). It will reformat that data as a date, and as an added bonus, since Autosave is on by default, it’ll save that reformatted data back into your CSV. Yes, settings can be changed to avoid these things. But why isn’t it just designed better so as to avoid it altogether?

            If that was just a natural side effect of spreadsheet apps, I could understand it. But LibreOffice Calc is a million times better at recognizing what types of data it is handling, so it seems to just be Excel’s shittiness.

            The fact that it also hasn’t really changed beyond aesthetics since 2004 is just… wild.

            • @jacecomix@sh.itjust.works
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              Can confirm. I’ve sent csv files to my coworkers, and they’ve tried to tell me that the files I sent were invalid. It’s because they opened up the file in Excel to look at it first, and Excel autosaved the reformatted data.

    • @AWittyUsername@lemmy.world
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      C#, technically not a product but it’s pretty great. The first few Xboxes, but that’s going back a bit.

      Windows pre 8.

      Microsoft Excel is goat for spreadsheets.

      Erm. Can’t think of any more.

      • @rdri@lemmy.world
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        Windows 8.1 was great, you just have to enable the start button and disable Metro. It’s basically a faster Windows 7.

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      I must be the only one who prefers Teams over Slack. I just don’t like its design. Nothing makes sense to me in how it operates. But then again, Trams runs fine for me. No slow downs or deleting things that others have mentioned.