• @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    2714 days ago

    Too bad private email access is essentially dead. Any service not requiring another email or phone number to sign up gets quickly shut down. A casualty in the war on whistleblowers.

    • lentildrop
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      1114 days ago

      email is never private, if its that sensitive it just shouldn’t go on the internet

      • Em Adespoton
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        514 days ago

        Exactly; email is digital post cards and always has been.

        Of course, that means I can encrypt a message and use someone else’s email account to send it :)

    • @xapr
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      914 days ago

      You can sign up for Proton mail without providing email or phone number, as far as I recall.

        • @tekato@lemmy.world
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          1614 days ago

          They do store it and have provided it to authorities in the past. In their defense, modern laws require you to hand over any data you have or get shut down. But they already knew that, yet choose to ask for it anyways knowing that they have to give it away if asked to.

          • sunzu2
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            414 days ago

            i guess corpos gonna corpo folks… even the “good” ones

            i did not realize you needed anything to create rando emails. i know google started that shit 5 years ago tho

            • @tekato@lemmy.world
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              114 days ago

              I don’t think you are required to provide a secondary email, but you get less features without it.

              • sunzu2
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                014 days ago

                i see… that is a dark pattern in of itself, why does proton need this info and why are they willing to incentiveze users sharing it.

          • @hugealligator379@lemmy.ml
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            214 days ago

            As far as I understand it, this is only recovery emails and I think it explicitly has some sort of warning about this when setting it. This is different than the email prompt on sign up.

            • @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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              114 days ago

              I wouldn’t trust them not to store the initial one as well tbh. Nothing technically stops that and it’s in their interests.

              • @_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                112 days ago

                They don’t ask for one on signup. I just signed up recently while using Tor on Tails, and was not required to provide an email for any reason. The only thing that happens is you get a warning in the account panel saying you won’t be able to recover your account if you lose the recovery codes.

          • @_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            112 days ago

            They provided it to Swiss authorities, with a notice that it happened to their customers. They do not have any requirement to share it with other governments.