• @orrk@lemmy.world
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      98 hours ago

      Otzma Jehudit is part of the Israeli Government coalition, it consists mainly of internationally wanted terrorists. and you want to bat for these terrorists? the ones who have been preaching the 14 words as a justification for genocide?

      • @the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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        -108 hours ago

        Assuming that’s true, that’s one group within the government. Find them, try them, and imprison them. On the other side are three entire genocidal terrorist regimes. Will you side with them? What do you think we should do with them?

        • @orrk@lemmy.world
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          117 hours ago

          we don’t need to fucking find them, they are open, they give speeches about how starving and killing every Palestinian is a moral good on a daily basis. they ARE the government, who’s going to put them in front of a judge and find them guilty, themselves? you are literally supporting a genocidal terrorist regime.

            • @orrk@lemmy.world
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              12 hours ago

              considering that all three of these regimes are not committing genocide at the moment, Iran not even interested in said genocide and the other two only existing because they are a resistance movement against Israel. yes, I think you can make a very compelling case that said one genocidal terrorist regime is worse than the others.

              Hezbollah was relatively quiet before the war kicked off, Hamas was supported by the Israeli state under Netanyahu to act as a spoiler towards the PAs attempt at a diplomatic 2-state solution, and Israel has been in power for the past 70 years. Hamas and Hezbollah literally only exist because Israel is an expansionist apartheid state.

              • @the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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                01 hour ago

                If Iran isn’t interested in the genocide, why do they fund and arm Hamas and Hezbollah? And Israel supported Hamas as an opposition to the PLO, which was a major terrorist organization at the time. Do you think they intentionally created Hamas as an excuse to get their own people bombed?

    • @bamboo@lemm.ee
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      99 hours ago

      Calling the people you dislike “terrorists” to avoid critical thinking about the atrocities (including genocide) of your own side isn’t really the gotcha you think it is.

      • SaltySalamander
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        -57 hours ago

        Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, and Israel are currently acting as terrorist states/groups. That isn’t up for debate, because it’s objective reality.

        • @bamboo@lemm.ee
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          45 hours ago

          I’m not sure that there is credible evidence of Iran and its affiliates targeting civilians the same way that the occupation has, their acts all seem to be targeting military installations rather than civilian targets. The occupation primarily targets civilians and civilian infrastructure.

      • @the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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        -78 hours ago

        I’m not calling them that on my own. I’m describing them the way multiple other nations have described them - not Israel. You only need to see their actions towards their own population to see why.