AWD is awesome. I love my subie. But don’t delude yourself. In ski resort parking lots I’ve seen FWD shitboxes drive around stuck 4WD pickups because they just slammed the gas and their shitty tires couldn’t make it up a hill. Good driving habits > good tires > all wheel drive. All three is awesome, but you should worry about winter driving in that order
I’ve seen FWD shitboxes drive around stuck 4WD pickups
This is me, I love driving in winter and I drive an old manual civic. Last winter I drove through the mountains between the Saguenay and the Malbaie (Quebec) during a couple of good blizzards. It’s a winter wonderland. You have to be really good at driving when your car’s basically belly on snow though and I can’t tell you how many SUVs are constantly in ditches along the 170.
Totally agree. But I’d rather have good driving habits, good tires, and awd than just the first two.
I dont buy the argument from others that being safer means you will drive less safely.
If I saw a study that showed a clear increase in preventable accidents in awd vehicles in winter, I would reconsider my position that awd is generally better than fwd
If it’s is really bad you can get lockers on your differential which can make a big difference (but if you don’t use them right they can make some slippery situations worse, and in the worst case cause expensive damage to your truck.
AWD is awesome. I love my subie. But don’t delude yourself. In ski resort parking lots I’ve seen FWD shitboxes drive around stuck 4WD pickups because they just slammed the gas and their shitty tires couldn’t make it up a hill. Good driving habits > good tires > all wheel drive. All three is awesome, but you should worry about winter driving in that order
This is me, I love driving in winter and I drive an old manual civic. Last winter I drove through the mountains between the Saguenay and the Malbaie (Quebec) during a couple of good blizzards. It’s a winter wonderland. You have to be really good at driving when your car’s basically belly on snow though and I can’t tell you how many SUVs are constantly in ditches along the 170.
Totally agree. But I’d rather have good driving habits, good tires, and awd than just the first two.
I dont buy the argument from others that being safer means you will drive less safely.
If I saw a study that showed a clear increase in preventable accidents in awd vehicles in winter, I would reconsider my position that awd is generally better than fwd
https://www.torquenews.com/1083/four-wheel-drive-and-all-wheel-drive-vehicles-found-be-safer-two-wheel-drive-vehicles-same-category
Here in the Midwest everyone is super cautious on that first snow in January.
Then that last one in March there’s tons of vehicles in the ditches as people become overconfident.
Awd doesnt help you stop or turn. Thats when you go in the ditch and get stuck. AWD is not a safety feature unless you live in the mountains.
And yet IHS found it to be safer to have an awd. /shrug
Correlation or causation?
I’d ask the same for all the anecdotes ive seen in the thread saying awd is less safe
Sure, but you might as well show your IHS source first.
I did earlier in the thread
If it’s is really bad you can get lockers on your differential which can make a big difference (but if you don’t use them right they can make some slippery situations worse, and in the worst case cause expensive damage to your truck.