• Don_DickleOP
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    164 months ago

    As a woman i was wondering about the root causes of it and if it can be stopped because I have a feeling that some Incels will take out their hate for women on a woman.

    • xigoi
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      -24 months ago

      IMO, The best way to stop it would be to find ways for men to stop being attracted to women and desiring a romantic/sexual relationship. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be much research around that.

      • Decoy321M
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        44 months ago

        OR we could teach people about respect and human decency…

        • xigoi
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          24 months ago

          It is often said that “facts don’t care about feelings”, unfortunately, the reverse is also true: feelings don’t care about facts. I rationally know that I should respect women’s rights to not have undesirable men be attracted to them, but I still feel the attraction and don’t know how to deal with it.

          • Decoy321M
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            34 months ago

            Fair point, but there is a simple solution. Learn how to deal with it. Learn self control. Let that rational part of your mind do the driving.

            • xigoi
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              24 months ago

              Do you have any resources on that? All the ones I’ve found suggest that feelings of attraction are hard-wired into the brain and getting rid of them is impossible.

              • Decoy321M
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                34 months ago

                I’m not saying to get rid of them, I’m saying to exercise self control so you don’t act on them. I dunno about resources on that, my dude. It’s just kind of a necessity to be a responsible adult.

                • xigoi
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                  4 months ago

                  If by “acting on them” you mean staring, catcalling, asking out, etc. I’m already trying my best to not do that. I’d say I’m quite successful at it, though in crowded spaces it’s often difficult to find a direction to look in that doesn’t contain a woman. And my mom sometimes tells me that I should look at and approach women, so there’s social pressure too.

                  However, what draws people to incel spaces is the sadness that comes from seeing couples in public or among your friends and knowing that you’ll never experience what they’re doing. Unless I’m misunderstanding, I don’t think what you’re suggesting helps with that.

                  • Decoy321M
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                    4 months ago

                    I can acknowledge that you’re partially correct. What I was suggesting was geared towards preventing people from acting in negative impulses. Basically, your brain thinking “no, don’t do creepy shit.”

                    But with your example, exercising rationality actually would help, because “the sadness that comes from seeing couples in public or among your friends and knowing that you’ll never experience what they’re doing” is actually an irrational thought.

                    There’s no reason to assume this is actually the case. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy that’s easily dispelled by recognizing that you’re actually capable of having that experience. Some proper therapy can help replace those intrusive thoughts with more empowering ones!

                    Edit: fixed an autocorrect issue that changed my intended meaning. Sorry.