• @SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    In what world are liberals left wing? Here in Europe liberals are all considered centrists. Even the ones that are for the well-fare state.

    • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      America and the rest of the Western world use liberal completely differently. We have a self enforced two party system in the US so it’s real easy to boil everything down to an either/or fallacy.

      At any rate we’ve stuck all the civil rights stuff, public goods, and people based governance under the tag of liberalism. And all the pro corporate stuff, anti rights, and privatization under Conservatism.

      The biggest shift in that paradigm in the last 20 years has been a collective realization that both parties believe governance should favor corporations.

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        14 months ago

        And all the pro corporate stuff, anti rights, and privatization under Conservatism

        I think I’d contest at least the pro corporate stuff and privatization parts of this.

        At a mininum, US liberals have a codependent relationship with corporate and private entities. If not flat-out pro-capitalist relationship.

        • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          14 months ago

          I should have been more clear. When I said “we’ve stuck…” I meant that’s the idea most people have. Not that that’s what’s actually happening.

          There is a wide gulf between political history and ideologies and party politics.