• @thisbenzingring
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    132 months ago

    law enforcement doesn’t require the police

    • JJROKCZ
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      52 months ago

      It doesn’t require the current police force with its terrible ideals but an armed force ready to respond to violent incidents is needed still.

      Even the comparatively golden utopia of European cities have soldiers carrying MP5s/famas/etc on the street for security

        • John Richard
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          2 months ago

          I don’t know, but as a citizen you collect evidence & file a complaint. Refusing to take a report of a crime is certainly an issue that should be reported. As citizens we have to hold police accountable & try to vote for people that will help hold them accountable and create systems to ensure that issues are dealt with.

          • @barsquid@lemmy.world
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            52 months ago

            Filing complaints is a good way to become a target of a gang that is shielded from any legal repercussions.

            I’m voting as hard as I can but the country is both gerrymandered to fuck and has allowed unlimited funding from wealthy interests (both foreign and domestic) to run whatever propaganda they want. The last time the vote went big in favor of sanity was 2008, even then we still had shitheads like Lieberman preventing real progress.

      • @thisbenzingring
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        92 months ago

        police are the bottom tier of law enforcement AND they don’t even have to know the laws when they are FORCING you to comply

        ask anyone with any experience in the other tiers of law enforcement and you might get a good idea of what law enforcement is

        • John Richard
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          -92 months ago

          I acknowledge a majority of police are blatantly in a position to do as thy will without any repercussions. There are a lot of bad judges too. I am not a fan of the issues, but we also have good judges and good cops, and places where the system is working as intended (for the most part). I have a hard time believing that getting rid of all law enforcement would be a good thing. I know there are people that like this concept, but there are gangs and groups of people that just want power themselves and to enforce their own concept of judgement and control without repercussions.

          • @thisbenzingring
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            72 months ago

            the police is not all law enforcement

            police are a modern creation. civilized society can exist without the police. In the USA, police weren’t even a thing until 1838

            • John Richard
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              -42 months ago

              What do you propose then. It is easy to say ACAB & defund the police. I’ve heard the same from drug dealers and people that I don’t trust to protect and serve. If you have a proposal then send it to your representatives or run for office and try to get it implemented.