• @goferking0
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    32 months ago

    Would love if dems fought this hard against the GOP.

    Or had actual long terms othet than not being GOP…

    • OptionalOP
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      -22 months ago

      I don’t know what counts as “fighting this hard” but dems do fight the GOP all session long. No one else does, with the sometimes exception of, like, Angus King.

      • @goferking0
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        32 months ago

        Yes they fight so hard.

        It’s why we got ACA instead of universal Healthcare. Almost got social security cuts, other cuts to social programs and right wings dream immigration bill in the form of an executive order by Biden.

        • OptionalOP
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          12 months ago

          Nice cherries ya picked there.

          First of all, no, and second of all if Obama had pushed H4A in 2008 you wouldn’t have anything. “Progressives” - or whoever- forget about that and somehow come to the conclusion that, well, since we didn’t get the moon and a bag of chips these guys are just as bad as those guys.

          So let me ask you if you think anyone is fighting hard in Washington. If no, then fair enough we can agree to disagree. If yes, who?

          • @goferking0
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            22 months ago

            No one is that’s the fucking issue. The most we’ve gotten is Nancy tearing up a piece of paper

            • OptionalOP
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              12 months ago

              So who just filed articles of impeachment on Alito and Thomas?

              Was it someone from the Green party? Perhaps a feisty Independent like Krysten Sinema? Y’know, someone who fights hard?

              Hey, 2017-2020 I give you that. The Dems were worthless. But 2020-now I’ve seen a lot of good things happen. I want more. And the option - there is one option right now - and that option is not good things.

              • @goferking0
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                22 months ago

                And crazy marge put in impeachment articles for biden. What’s your point?

                Still waiting on any ethics push from senate.

                What do you think they’ve done to fight since 2020?

                After vaccination tiny push they stopped caring about covid. Ignored doing anything to investigate trump. Fucked up where they charged him in the secret document case.

                We got what a super watered down IRA bill? Then sanctions on the materials that would be used to help lower carbon emissions.

                Oh and still killed immigration by implementing the republican wet dream at the border.

                So please tell me the fighting as I’m so fucking tired of our 2 useless right wing parties.

                • OptionalOP
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                  12 months ago

                  Are you saying you didn’t get everything you wanted so therefore they’re not fighting hard? Are you thinking they’re not saying we want free school lunches, we want to tax the rich, we want to support Ukraine, just - what floating listlessly in space? How does this get done without fighting hard, and who or what needs to be fought?

                  Oh I know you don’t need another list of accomplishments, so are you saying they got those super easy? Really? No fight needed eh. Right.

                  Have you ever gotten something approved by 20 people? 350 people? 65 Million people? Any idea how it actually plays out? It plays out that way for many reasons, not least of which is it’s hard to build consensus and easy to destroy it.

                  I get the dems are not rubber-stamping the gay space communism we so deserve, yes, I have many complaints for them, but calling them right-wing is ridiculous. And if you can’t see your way to not supporting the actual-no-foolin-seriously-this-is-fucked-up fascist party, okay.

                  • @goferking0
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                    22 months ago

                    Amazing how all your arguments and reasoning boils down to shut up and stop complaining about their shittyness while also trying to say it’ll all get better once they’re the only party.

                    Or is it just you don’t understand why a progressive space can see how shit the dems are. Better than Republicans but that is such a low bar we want better.

                    Also you are one of those who think we aren’t voting blue because we are critical of the party that says they are better.