You may have noticed a distinct lack of return2ozma. This is due to their admitting, in a public comment, that their engagement here is in bad faith:

I’m sure there will be questions, let me see if I can address the most obvious ones:

  1. Can I still post negative stuff about Biden?

Absolutely! We have zero interest in running an echo chamber. However, if ALL you’re posting is negative, you may want to re-think your priorities. You get out of the world what you put into it and all that.

  1. Why now?

Presumption of innocence. It may be my own fault, but I do try to think the best of people, and even though they were posting negative articles, they weren’t necessarily WRONG. Biden’s poll numbers, particularly in minority demographics ARE in the shitter. They are starting to get better, but he still has a hell of a hill to climb.

  1. Why a 30 day temp ban and not a permanent ban?

The articles return2ozma shared weren’t bad, faked, or from some wing-nut bias site like “beforeitsnews.com”, they were legitimate articles from established and respected news agencies, pointing out the valid problems Biden faces.

The problem was ONLY posting the negatives, over and over and then openly admitting that dishonest enagement is their purpose.

Had they all been bullshit articles? It would not have taken anywhere near this much time to lay the ban and it would have been permanent.

30 days seems enough time for them to re-think their strategery and come back to engage honestly.

tl;dr - https://youtu.be/C6BYzLIqKB8#t=7s

  • @masquenox@lemmy.world
    -3•6 months ago

    calling liberals “liberal” isn’t the insult you think it is.

    You mean… just like the terms fascist, white supremacist and colonialist weren’t insults once? They sure are now, aren’t they?

    And lastly… nuance isn’t a thing to hide behind.

    Then stop hiding behind it, liberal. Defend your ideology… if you can.

    • @Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3•6 months ago

      Okay, since you’ve basically admitted to using the term “liberal” as an insult, I’ve nothing to say to you. Because circumventing the “no personal attacks” rule by calling people “liberals” as a derogatory is about as bad faith as it gets.

      You’re the conversational equivalent of a Trump supporter.

      • @masquenox@lemmy.world
        -4•6 months ago

        Lol!

        What’s the matter, liberal? If your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?

        You can flatter me all day long by calling me a socialist or a radical - it doesn’t matter how you did it. Perhaps it’s because, unlike you, I actually know what those terms mean.

        • @Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3•6 months ago

          The problem here is that you think you’re being clever by skirting the rules of this community by calling me a liberal as an insult- after admitting it’s an insult. But it’s only considered an insult to people who don’t understand how things work in the real world- so… in essence, no one relevant.

          And you’re clearly not any smarter than OP who admitted they were here to post propaganda, you’re here admitting back-door insults.

          • @masquenox@lemmy.world
            -5•6 months ago

            The problem here is

            Again, liberal… if your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?

            here to post propaganda

            Did you notice the sign on the door here, liberal? It literally says politics.

            Which means what, liberal? Do you need me to explain even the most basic things about this to you?

            • @Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3•6 months ago

              Again, if you can’t have a discussion with someone in good faith without resorting to your little secret insults, you can’t really ever expect to be taken seriously or treated as an adult, can you?

              Imagine if I called you… hmm.

              Imagine if I called you “bait troll” after every sentence. And then defended myself by saying, it’s not an insult if it’s true, right? Because we both know why you’re derailing every conversion you are in with the “liBeRaL” rhetoric. It’s to circumvent the “be civil” rules here and to bait people into being reported by you.

              This conversation, and many others you’ve had all seem to end the same way.

              With you smugly insulting everyone you come in contact with until they give up…

              You’re now not to ever be taken seriously. Way to go man. Big win for your ideology. Be sure to let the others see your good work here. You’ve managed to hurt your cause even further.

              Now- go ahead and respond with some more petty insults while completely ignoring the wheelhouse of the conversion.

              • @masquenox@lemmy.world
                -4•6 months ago

                Again, if you can’t have a discussion

                Again, liberal… if your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?

                “bait troll”

                So you understand so little about your own ideology that you will happily conflate it with any word that randomly pops into your head?

                How gormless can you get?

                At least tankies and fascists have the integrity to actually admit to the existence of their ideology - the same cannot be said for you liberals.