• @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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      101 month ago

      Maybe you should advocate that Biden not refuse that demand.

      It would be great if Biden changed his view. I hope that the changing views of the American electorate on Israel and the protests relevant to that change pressure him into doing so.

      But when you say “Well, it’s actually completely okay if you decide that allowing fascism is the better choice if Biden doesn’t change his mind😊”, what you’re saying is “I don’t give a fuck how many Palestinians OR American minorities die, and I don’t care if I ever get a say in governance again.”

        • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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          81 month ago

          Sorry that I want to minimize the number of Palestinians who die, while you would prefer to maximize the number.

          • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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            -51 month ago

            No you don’t dude.

            You refuse to take your criticism to Biden and expect voters to just accept genocide.

            You are an apologist for genocide.

            • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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              81 month ago

              You refuse to take your criticism to Biden

              Oh yes, just the other day I was offered a trip to the White House to discuss my policy positions with Biden, and I stood up on my one good leg, and firmly said “NO! I will NOT go and take my criticism to BIDEN HIMSELF! If he wants to hear my criticism of him, he can log into Lemmy like everyone else!”

              and expect voters to just accept genocide.

              No, actually, I expect voters to vote against “more genocide”, something that seems extremely controversial to people who want MORE genocide, for reasons that Definitely Make Sense From A Left-Wing Perspective. I guess more dead minorities is… left praxis…?

                • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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                  71 month ago

                  Voters aren’t going to move their position on this.

                  Oh, voters aren’t going to change from desiring more genocide? Makes sense, considering how stubborn you are on insisting that as many minorities be killed as possible.

                  • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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                    -61 month ago

                    I mean you are the one arguing in favor of genocide bro, not me.

                    I’m making the argument that we take our issues up with the politicians who are trying to curry our favor, and withold our support so that they take on policy positions that enjoy more widespread approval, thus increasing their chances of getting elected.

                    You are the one arguing that we shouldn’t bring our criticisms forwards and instead should suffer the deeply unpopular policy positions these politicians have taken. The issue is that is a guaranteed L for Biden. By supporting a politician with bad policies, you are setting them up to lose the election. He can’t win if he continues supporting this genocide. He has to shift his position, and the only leverage we have right now is to withhold our support.

                    You dont care about Biden winning this election.