• mox
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    96 months ago

    There is also Matrix, which has advantages over both of them.

    • @The_Dark_Knight
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      Matrix is shit atm mate stop recommending it maybe one day it will become good but that day is not today also they are said to be scattering metadata and bashes XMPP for no real reason . Briar and SimpleX is the gold standard for now only if they had more users .

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        56 months ago

        bashes XMPP for no real reason .

        This is a lie.

        The whole area of XMPP vs Matrix is quite subjective. Rather than fighting over which open interoperable communication standard works the best, we should just collaborate and bridge everything together. The more federation and interoperability the better.

        https://matrix.org/docs/older/faq/

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        Matrix is shit atm mate

        No, it is not.

        bashes XMPP for no real reason .

        No, it does not.

        Briar and SimpleX is the gold standard for now

        No, they are not. They might fit a certain niche (or could once they mature) but neither is a good general-purpose messenger, because their goals and designs inherently limit usability.

        No messaging platform fits every use case, but Matrix is great for general-purpose private messaging that anyone, anywhere can easily use, without Google services, without a phone number, and without being vulnerable to shutdown if a single country’s laws turn unfavorable. It has other advantages as well. It’s not flawless, but is constantly improving, and is already very useful to many people.

        If you have a specific criticism that you can actually support with facts, you could bring it up for discussion. Slinging vague attacks that look a lot like something one might see in a poorly-informed reddit post doesn’t help anyone.

        • @The_Dark_Knight
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          Its like you have never used it . The clients and servers are laggy federation is shit etc . but you seem to have your mind set no hope in arguing .

          • mox
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            The clients and servers are laggy

            Which ones, exactly? The largest public server was laggy about two or three years ago, but hasn’t been recently in my experience, and in any case, you can pick a different server or run your own. I have never seen a laggy client.

            federation is shit etc .

            Again, that doesn’t match my experience, and what you’ve written is too vague to have any useful meaning.

            no hope in arguing .

            Apparently not. Good day.

            • @devraza@lemmy.ml
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              I’ve previously had issues with Matrix being incredibly slow and unreliable with federation (I’m self-hosting). However, that’s pretty much in the past now and I seem to have somehow resolved that issue.

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                26 months ago

                Which server software are you running? Any recent experience with Conduit or Dendrite?

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                  I’ve been using Conduit within a docker container for a while now, and it’s worked pretty well aside from the mautrix-signal bridge (this was fixed in version v7.0.0, I think). Other than conduit, I tried out dendrite, but the latency in sending messages was unbearable.

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                    I wonder if Conduwuit would be worth a try. I don’t know anything about the maintainer or what led to the fork, but I see it already has active contributors.