• NielsBohron
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    37 months ago

    I agree that the case needs to be airtight, and I agree that the most slam-dunk offenses should be prosecuted first. I was just taking issue with the “why bother prosecuting for treason when lesser offenses are enough to put him in jail for the rest of his life” logic

      • OptionalOP
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        27 months ago

        Not that many. 70 million. Which is 70 million more than he should, but.

        • Schadrach
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          37 months ago

          Not all of those were even really “supporters” of Trump.

          You have a whole segment of folks who are going to vote red regardless of who is running, who’ve been doing so their entire lives and aren’t about to change just because this Republican isn’t what they want - at least he’s not a Democrat. They literally check the straight Republican ticket box if there is one and move on, they don’t know much about politics and vote GOP because they were raised to vote GOP.

          I’ve met more than a few GOP voters who outright wish the GOP candidate was someone else because they can acknowledge Trump is an idiot, but are going to vote for Trump because he’s the GOP nominee and for no other reason.

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        7 months ago

        I honestly don’t think he has that many supporters any more. There are simply hundreds of millions of people that will vote for whoever wins the GOP nomination. That might sound like the same thing, but the Republican nomination process in most states excludes anyone who is not a registered Republican, so the nominees keep getting more extremist and turnout keeps dropping in primaries.

        My parents are die-hard conservatives, and they want Trump to quietly go away. However, if he’s the one in the ballot in November with an R behind his name, they’ll still vote for him

        • @RippleEffect@lemm.ee
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          27 months ago

          I want to believe you but living in a deep red state, all I have is anecdotal evidence that there’s still enough that seemingly unconditionally support him

          • NielsBohron
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            27 months ago

            still enough that seemingly unconditionally support him

            You’re absolutely right that the number of people in this camp is too damn high. Frankly, it’s still high enough that he’s winning the nomination despite waning support from more moderate conservatives, and that’s enough that he will still be a threat in November. So, I guess in that respect it doesn’t really matter if he has hundreds of millions of rabid supporters or 1 million rabid supporters and hundreds of millions of lukewarm conservative voters, it seems like he’s still going to be on the ballot.

            And frankly, my parents might still be rabid supporters and they just know better than to let that show around me and mine because they know his actions are indefensible and they are worried about losing access to their grandkids (with good reason).