• @JovialSodium
    link
    11
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    +1 for checking out Strange New Worlds. Haven’t seen Lower Decks yet (besides the crossover episode)

    • @phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      -112 months ago

      Not going to try it anymore. I wasted countless hours on the horrors of discovery, with the continued promise that NOW it will get better! It only got worse. It was horrible trek, it was horrible SciFi.

      I then tried Picard because hey, the TNG crew, it has to be good, right? Right? But then it became clear that even though the name was star trek, the actor was the same, the characters had the same name, it was a vapid nonsensical CGI fest. The characters has nothing to do with the original, and it was just sad. Picard managed to ruin Picard, Q and the rest of the crew for me, I haven’t watched TNG ever since, something I did almost weekly.

      So I’m done with it, one day I hope to feel that love again and rewatch the older trek, but the new trek seriously trashed everything that star trek was and is.

      I know that this opinion will be down voted, I’ll be called right wing or something dumb, but it’s the truth. Look at “the Orville”, holy shit, that IS star trek TOS/TNG, done by a huge fan of star trek, and made with love for the star trek universe, not “I never watched star trek, I never liked star trek, but star trek is a great platform for my political opinions! The Klingons are now trump supporters!” <Insert Picard facepalm here>

      So the king is dead, long live the king, long live the Orville, even though I doubt that will pass beyond season 4

      • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        3
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        Have you watched Lower Decks?

        It’s not a show to get new audiences into Trek like Prodigy. Lower Decks is written by fans for existing fans of TNG era Trek. It is non stop obscure Trek jokes.

        • Flying SquidM
          link
          fedilink
          42 months ago

          They apparently don’t like LD because it has “chest-bumping admirals” which… okay? It’s a cartoon. It’s not supposed to be serious.

          • @ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            52 months ago

            It’s amazing to be that a show as diverse in themes as Star Trek could lose fans because they decided to make a few jokes.

            Hot take: People who can’t appreciate Lower Decks were never really fans.

          • @samus12345@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            42 months ago

            I don’t even recall the chest-bumping or “shield ups, shields down” song they’re referring to, but apparently it’s such a big deal that the other 39 episodes are garbage without even seeing them.

        • @phoenixz@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          130 days ago

          Watched the trailers, hated them, watched a single episode and turned it off halfway. Disco wasn’t written by fans and I’m having a hard time believing that lower decks was.

          I LOVE the episode lower decks, the series is awful

          • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            130 days ago

            You watched half of one episode. You can’t claim the series Lower Decks is awful after watching half of one episode.

            The writers wrote a joke where a character comments that Nick Locarno looks just like Tom Paris. It takes a fan to write that joke. It takes a fan to understand that joke.

            Maybe you just didn’t get the inside jokes they throw out every 5 minutes.

            • @phoenixz@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              129 days ago

              I’ve watched every TOS TNG ds9 voy and ent episode more times than I can count, I even watched shades of gray twice. I have thousands upon thousands of dollars in merch, models, books, thousands of trading cards. Yeah, I’m a fan who draws the line at wearing a uniform but that’s about it.

              I watched half a season of discovery and decided I tortured myself enough. I regret pushing myself through watching Picard all three seasons, that is a lot of hours I won’t be getting back and it pretty much ruined TNG for me. I started watching prodigy and decided I had enough of the crap, and I’m not wasting my time anymore in getting disappointed and having so much great history being shat on.

              If prodigy made a funny injoke, then yay. After seeing the producers of discovery proudly proclaiming that they aren’t trek fans, don’t know it but love the platform to push their political views I feel like I’m just about done with star trek. I haven’t even watched the classic episode anymore, that’s how much of a turn off the entire experience had been.

              I started watching the Orville and immediately fell in love with a show that is startrek in all but name. Go watch that, it showsbthe love.

              • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                1
                edit-2
                29 days ago

                If prodigy made a funny injoke, then yay

                ??? This is about Lower Decks, not Prodigy.

                I didn’t even need to watch a single episode of Prodigy to know it wasn’t for me. Prodigy was created to expand the market to children. I explicitly called out Trek shows that are about marketing to new demographics as compared to Lower Decks which was written for existing TNG/DS9/Voyager fans.

                Orville had many, many episodes of Family Guy humor jokes that needed to be slogged through before finding it’s footing.

                I agree that Orville is the best current Trek. But I don’t understand your Lower Decks comments. You said you watched half of one episode, then you confused it with Prodigy. Have you actually watched Lower Decks or do you have it confused with Prodigy?

                https://youtu.be/b-gudZBXmI0?si=7GxrTp88SowaPxlY

      • @JovialSodium
        link
        22 months ago

        Strange New Worlds feels a lot like older Trek. But if your feelings about the other recent series have soured you to the point of being unwilling to try another series, that’s your perogative. But I think you’re missing out.

        • @samus12345@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          22 months ago

          Yeah, they said they liked The Orville, and because both are inspired by the same source they’re pretty similar in a lot of ways.