Update, yes there are snipers:

  • @gmtom@lemmy.world
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    -48 months ago

    Give me ONE incident of an active duty US sniper (police or military) EVER shooting a SINGLE protestor with even so much as a rubber bullet. Otherwise your argument is complete bull shit.

    So because that very specific combination of a sniper shooting a protestor in America hasn’t happened yet that makes it okay? Snipers have shot other civilians, the police have shot protestors and police snipers have shot protestors before in other countries. So you would have to be really dishonest to pretend that means it’s fine.

    Edit: This isn’t some “good guy with a gun” or “untrained beat cop” situation. This is a sniper.

    “Police violence is okay as lk g as they are trained”

    https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-03-25/a-missouri-police-sniper-killed-a-2-year-old-girl-why-did-he-take-the-shot

    So was this shooting justified then because the sniper wasn’t as untrained as a random beat cop?

    Like I get you’ve committed to the position and there’s no way you’re mature enough to deviate from that now, but my god this is such a bad hill yo die on.

    • Dark Arc
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      58 months ago

      Did you even read the article you linked? A dude shot his girlfriend in the head with a shotgun. Then was taking shots in the dark (literally) shooting from a building while he had a baby in his arms. That could not be more different of a situation from stopping an active shooter in a public gathering. It also has absolutely nothing to do with using snipers as some means of intimidating protestors or suppressing political speech. This was a very tricky domestic situation that went wrong.

      This article also says:

      A former federal law enforcement sniper, whose name KCUR is withholding because he now works in the private sector, said “99.9 percent of the time” snipers are relaying information to commanders, not firing their weapons.

      The most important rule for a sniper is they “must be absolutely sure of the identity” of any target. That directive is on page one of the FBI’s Advance Rifle Training manual.

      Don’t you dare start talking about maturity. You’ve been more than happy to make numerous personal attacks and inflammatory remarks.

      I’m done with this conversation. You can believe what you want but you are very very wrong about the facts and risks of this situation and the personal attacks do nothing to help your argument.

      • @gmtom@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Good job just ignoring 90% of my comment because you didn’t want to answer my question because it would mean admitting you’re a clown

        I sincerely hope your 100% blind trust in the laughably corrupt and violent police force never betrays you.