• @CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
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      I’m no fan of organized religion at all but:

      “None of you has faith until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself.”

      Sounds pretty similarly chill to me.

      The problem is that these texts have so many contradictory statements that they can be used to justify anything anyway.

      • @ADonkeyBrainedFog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        The Gospel of Judas was rejected for the Biblical Cannon, but it would make Christianity make so much more sense. Basically says (along with other stuff) that the old testament god is a lower god that kind of gets off on making us suffer. Hence the impossible challenges used to damn us and the floods and stuff. All done to amuse them. Jesus is the son of the true god. The big boi who actually embodies love, but it so massive that they can’t directly interact with us as they have a lot more big picture shit to do. Jesus was just one of MANY entities sent around to all corners of the universe to spread the message of seeing past the tricks of the lesser gods and the hate and guilt that come from them and find the light of the real, all loving entity. Explains why old testament and new testament god is so different and Jesus seems to give a ton of contradictory messaging to earlier lessons.

        Not religious btw. Just find the topic very fascinating.

          • @ADonkeyBrainedFog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            It’s a rabbit hole. The book of Enoch is pretty wild too. It was so popular that the New Testament was written assuming you had read it, but again, it was rejected from the biblical cannon. There’s a bunch of references in the Bible that make much more sense if you know the Enoch. Some cool lore in there too. All of the apocrypha is cooler than anything in the official Bible cannon tbh. All ruled out because they wanted to make mass as boring as possible I assume.

            But yeah, check out Gnosticism. It’s an early sect of Christianity that believes all of the apocrypha. Much more based than our Christians I think. It kind of goes in an eastern religion direction while maintaining western mythology. Interesting stuff. It’s considered the ultimate heresy which is reason enough to learn about it haha

            This is a pretty quick intro to the topic. Sub 10 min to get the gist.

      • @Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        52 months ago

        I like the part about kicking over tables and whipping businessmen, but I think if you did the whipping now, a surprising number of them would enjoy it (no kinkshame), so not as effective.

    • @CanadaPlus
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      I mean, he also messed up some temple peddlers pretty bad that one time. I haven’t read enough of the Quran to really know, but I bet it’s also a mixed bag.

      They’re super big on charity, at least.