You are mixing up “the way it is” with “the way it should be”. They are speaking to the way it is not trying to argue that it should be that way because we always have.
It’s simply stating a fact. The US has a multiple decades long bromance with Israel and the unsettling truth is that we both love doing the whole industrial war machine killing and genocide thing. A lot. Slavery, Trail of Tears, Vietnam, Banana Republics, Tuskegee, Iraq, Afghanistan, and on and on. And you’re gonna sit there and tell me it’s Biden’s fault alone that Israel is doing a genocide? And that he alone can somehow stop them after decades of doing it too and backing them?
Should Biden denounce the genocide? YES
Should Biden at least stop sending munitions? YES
Should Biden send in our troops to stop the IDF? Yes? No? Maybe? I don’t even know.
Is he responsible for the genocide? NO
One thing that makes me bristle at the situation is that a lot of people are saying “he is doing the genocide so let’s elect Trump!”
And one thing that makes me bristle is when people assume that all opposition to the genocide is this. My position is that Biden is supporting Netanyahu’s genocide and that he should stop.
What actions so you suppose I can take? You just know I’m utterly powerless to change it and want to blame me for not stopping Biden’s support for the genocide every centrist has always wanted.
“That’s the way we’ve always done it” is a poor justification for supporting genocide.
That’s not what they said at all.
You are mixing up “the way it is” with “the way it should be”. They are speaking to the way it is not trying to argue that it should be that way because we always have.
It’s simply stating a fact. The US has a multiple decades long bromance with Israel and the unsettling truth is that we both love doing the whole industrial war machine killing and genocide thing. A lot. Slavery, Trail of Tears, Vietnam, Banana Republics, Tuskegee, Iraq, Afghanistan, and on and on. And you’re gonna sit there and tell me it’s Biden’s fault alone that Israel is doing a genocide? And that he alone can somehow stop them after decades of doing it too and backing them?
Should Biden denounce the genocide? YES Should Biden at least stop sending munitions? YES Should Biden send in our troops to stop the IDF? Yes? No? Maybe? I don’t even know. Is he responsible for the genocide? NO
He supports the genocide by selling weapons to Israel. If he ever stops, I’ll stop saying he supports genocide.
I didn’t say it was Biden’s fault alone.
Fair. And I agree.
One thing that makes me bristle at the situation is that a lot of people are saying “he is doing the genocide so let’s elect Trump!”
And I’m like wtf? No. He isn’t DOING the genocide, he is enabling it sure, but not doing it, and not voting for him to let Trump win is 100x worse.
And one thing that makes me bristle is when people assume that all opposition to the genocide is this. My position is that Biden is supporting Netanyahu’s genocide and that he should stop.
Okay. What actions are you taking to that end?
What actions so you suppose I can take? You just know I’m utterly powerless to change it and want to blame me for not stopping Biden’s support for the genocide every centrist has always wanted.
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If you’re going to accuse me of something, just come out and do it.
Full agree. Sorry for assuming. I’ve gotten a LOT of the “genocide Joe so let’s elect Trump” BS lately.
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It’s so neat seeing the only policy centrists actually stand up for when they encounter pushback.