Seniors are usually pulling around $200k in NYC, plus stock worth around $100k. Still crazy high, but not nearly $450k unless they’ve been there for a very long time, and the high CoL makes it worth about half of that.
Staff engineers, as in those who write 4 lines of code a year, are closer to $450k
Hello, I’d like to apply to be staff engineer, I will even accept a lower salary if I can call the client/user a dumbass for contradicting themselves during the meeting
Yeah, that’s net including ~$100k of stock distributed over 4 years. The base starting is around $130k for a low level SWE. As the years to by, the base salary goes up to a little over $200k for seniors, but the stock refreshes aren’t usually as large as the initial.
Of course, it also depends on how the company is doing as a whole. Lately Googs has been struggling and laying off people.
If the person is calling themselves a “software developer” instead of a “software engineer” then they almost certainly live some place where “engineer” is a restricted term.
No, software developer isn’t a fallback term for software engineer, they have slightly different implications. They’re all very loosely defined so they’re almost interchangeable
Really? Do you know of a company that has both developers and engineers where the distinction is not location?
Where I work, we have both, but it’s purely a location thing. In the American offices we’re called “engineers”, yet my coworkers in Canada are called “developers” despite doing the exact same work. We don’t have “developers” in the US.
It’s somewhat restricted. You can’t hold yourself out as a civil engineer without passing the exam, for example. For made up jobs like software “engineer” there are no rules — it’s like the FDA with regard to actual food vs. supplements.
[serious] There is medication that can help regulate your flood of emotions that cause you to lash out at people.
Also, I’m not sure comparing a joke about the term “engineer” to a Nazi-Defector is really appropriate. If your intention was humor, you might want to reevaluate that joke.
I’m a software developer. If I just start calling myself an engineer, can I have 450k?
Just change your email signature and you’re good to go :)
Well in that case, I’ll change it to CEO. Wish me luck!!
Good luck, here is a pic to go with the signature :)
Are you a senior or staff software engineer for a multinational tech company in the Bay Area or NYC?
$450k is typical in that case.
Seniors are usually pulling around $200k in NYC, plus stock worth around $100k. Still crazy high, but not nearly $450k unless they’ve been there for a very long time, and the high CoL makes it worth about half of that.
Staff engineers, as in those who write 4 lines of code a year, are closer to $450k
Staff engineers get paid the big bucks to spend all day in meetings so the rest of us don’t have to.
Worth it.
Hello, I’d like to apply to be staff engineer, I will even accept a lower salary if I can call the client/user a dumbass for contradicting themselves during the meeting
New grads at Google make over $200k in NYC…
Yeah, that’s net including ~$100k of stock distributed over 4 years. The base starting is around $130k for a low level SWE. As the years to by, the base salary goes up to a little over $200k for seniors, but the stock refreshes aren’t usually as large as the initial.
Of course, it also depends on how the company is doing as a whole. Lately Googs has been struggling and laying off people.
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Nope, has more to do with which company you work at
Yes.
I tried this but it didn’t work 😭
Check the law where you live. Engineer is in many places a restricted profession like lawyer or doctor.
It’s not restricted in the US.
If the person is calling themselves a “software developer” instead of a “software engineer” then they almost certainly live some place where “engineer” is a restricted term.
No, software developer isn’t a fallback term for software engineer, they have slightly different implications. They’re all very loosely defined so they’re almost interchangeable
Really? Do you know of a company that has both developers and engineers where the distinction is not location?
Where I work, we have both, but it’s purely a location thing. In the American offices we’re called “engineers”, yet my coworkers in Canada are called “developers” despite doing the exact same work. We don’t have “developers” in the US.
It’s usually one or the other. It just doesn’t matter which one
At my first job I was on a contract as a software engineer I with the job title junior developer, because that’s just how the titles mapped
It’s somewhat restricted. You can’t hold yourself out as a civil engineer without passing the exam, for example. For made up jobs like software “engineer” there are no rules — it’s like the FDA with regard to actual food vs. supplements.
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[serious] There is medication that can help regulate your flood of emotions that cause you to lash out at people.
Also, I’m not sure comparing a joke about the term “engineer” to a Nazi-Defector is really appropriate. If your intention was humor, you might want to reevaluate that joke.