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Would you rather have them live a short live or not even be born because their parents died in the wild?

I think you should not be allowed to breed someone into existence when you have the date of their murder already in your calendar.

most people won’t stop eating meat

I’m talking to you, not most people.

more ethical farming is beneficial

I do not believe you can ethically kill someone that doesn’t want to die. All these promises like “humane slaughter” (which is an oxymoron) or “freerange” are only serving businesses to sell more and consumers to feel less bad about their unethical practice. They change virtually nothing for the animals that are still locked up, exploited and killed at a fraction of their lifespan.

If you believe animals deserve compassion you should not pay for them to be enslaved and killed.

I agree legality != morality!

I after WW2 we decided industrial scale murder is wrong and gas chambers are evil yet to this day animals suffer this fate, legally.

lol?

That doesn’t address anything in my comment, did you mean to reply to someone else?

As long as you are not using it as a reason to continue your oppression, I don’t mind you doing any thought experiment

we could make their short lives better but let’s not stop killing them

Can you unpack that a bit more? What is the reason you want to make their lives better, and why do you not apply that argument to the unnecessary killing of them?

Please don’t just forward all you unencrypted email to the biggest data scanning company in the world

It’s criminal that https://delta.chat/ isn’t named as an alternative chat especially since its in-chat apps (https://webxdc.org/) contain alternatives for half of googles apps but that are peer to peer, e2ee and offline first unlike most of the alternatives in the graphic.

Most of the US (56%) is considered “partially illiterate” so that’s not unexpected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

not only are there way more people in a city to take the fruit, there are also way less insects so there would be much less fruit

Yeah that’s kinda how the devs work. Descenders received a lot of love after its release, Next will get there too

Descenders has mountainbiking and snowboarding

Hosting your bill anywhere is just waiting for your data to be sold or leaked. You can keep your split bill fully encrypted and only shared between the people that you trust: https://webxdc.org/apps/#durian-splitbill

Usable in XMPP based Cheogram, or Delta Chat for e2ee bill splitting.

Read more: https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires

Replacing billionairish platforms with ZIP files

There is also no standard way of buying a DRM free epub for personal use so I’m fine downloading them from Anna too :)

You’re right that my belief that killing is immoral means I automatically think killers are unsuitable recipients of government subsidies.

They actually kill all the animals all the time

Some years, your crops barely materialize.

Oh sweet summer child when they say “subsidies for farmers” they don’t mean farmers growing food, they mean animal slavers.

I know trying to convince commie is pointless as they are in every vegan aligned thread arguing indefinitely so this is for the reader.

Sentient animals can have good and bad experiences. In some cases they are simple physical enjoyments, while in other cases they have to do with emotions and pleasant thoughts, which many nonhuman animals are capable of having. Animals who play and social animals who enjoy relating to each other have such experiences.

However, when nonhuman animals die, they can no longer have any positive experiences. When someone dies, they can no longer enjoy all the good things that they could experience if they were to remain alive. Thus all sentient animals can be harmed by death, and actually are so harmed when they die. So sentient animals not only have an interest in not suffering, but also have an interest in remaining alive.

(Loosely quoted from https://www.animal-ethics.org/interest-in-living)

TLDR; Unless you believe that animals can not have positive experiences it is logically derived that they have interest in living.

Are you saying “if you are bred for this purpose the purpose is moral”?