• MehBlah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    6 days ago

    The kind of cognitive dissonance that tries to make believing in yourself evil is utterly without decency.

  • PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.socialEnglish
    52·
    7 days ago

    Satan is rad as hell.

    According to their own mythos the dude just wanted to enlighten humanity and free us a from the bondage of an angry gods slavery.

    • ziggurat@lemmy.world
      13·
      7 days ago

      I know that the serpent that suggested eating the appel wasn’t meant by the author to be the devil, but the audacity of modern Christians to make their antagonist be anti knowledge…

      Of course the serpent isn’t satan, because he was cursed to live as an animal on his belly. Which, keep in mind the original authors didn’t intend for the plethora of devil and satan figures to be the same recurring character, and to be the same character as the serpent or lucifer. But none of these other characters slither on their belly, so either hes a different character or god isn’t Almighty.

      So what about other character modern Christians conflate with Satan? Well what about the devil who tempted Jesus to eat in the dessert. Sounds like an act of charity to me. There are numerous health benefits to fasting, but let me check my notes, 40 days? And the reason to be obedient? Imagine if your significant other wanted you to torture your self like that for obedience. Stockholm syndrome much? Who tried to give Jesus food? Assuming hes not just hallucinating, this was written in a type of ancient Greek language often referer to today as koine greek and the character was referred to as diabolos.

      Anyway, I became an atheist, while sitting in church, at around 11ish I dont remember, at least before I learned the word atheist, and the reason is I didn’t see (putting words on this as an adult, I wasn’t able to use these words at 11) I didn’t see how if god was not part of the natural world then hes not part of our world.

      First time I read the word atheist and it’s definition, I remember thinking that this describes me. But after that I was able to read more about in and about the Bible, and at the time as intended in modern Christianity conflating all these devils and lucifer and the serpent, the only thing this conflated super character does anything wrong is in the book of Job, and then god encouraged and allowed him to do that. Still not saying killing someone’s family is good, but yes

      The invented character that is conflated with the multiple devils and lucifer and the serpent is the good character

      And god tortured and kills everyone, and gets them to obey…

      I mean wtf

      Oh, and my beliefs didn’t get any more Christian when YouTube came out haha

  • madcaesar@lemmy.world
    32·
    7 days ago

    Satan is the only character who tells the truth in the Bible.

    By Christians he’s seen as the enemy.

  • DCErik@lemm.eeEnglish
    21·
    7 days ago

    Sounds like the difference between supportive adult and an abusive one.

    • Pnut@lemm.ee
      2·
      6 days ago

      “unfortunately. Our garments could not withstand the weather.”

    • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      “Damn it to hell, I said believe in yourself! What is it with you religious people?”

  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
    101·
    7 days ago

    That’s not Satan, that’s the snake. Satan’s just an asshole who does God’s bidding testing and tempting people like he did with Job. And it’s not the same as the nake or lucifer.
    The ‘snake’ was the one who told Eve that God was lying to them, and that they would not die if they ate the forbidden fruit. This one is the cool guy who’s the equivalent of Prometheus.
    Lucifer isn’t even in the bible at all. It’s a Roman mythical explanation for Venus because it was something bright that appeared sometimes in the sky, and it somehow got conflated with the bad versions of the “morning star” mentioned in the bible later. Funny enough, Jesus is also referred as “morning star” too. Also the King of Babylon, I think. “Morning star” may be just a saying to describe a characteristic, not a character, like “you are a rising star”.

    • ziggurat@lemmy.world
      3·
      7 days ago

      Good point, lucifer is a word used in some translations of the bible though, this book Isaiah was originally written in Hebrew and the word was heilel, and this was translated to latin as lucifer. It was referring to a Babylonian king, not the devil, or the fallen angel, likely Nebuchadnezzar. Some translation use this or similar wording.

      Lucifer is latin and means light bringer, lux means light, ferre means bringer.

      The serpent was cursed to live as an animal on it’s belly. So not the same person as Nebuchadnezzar.

      Different devils (from the ancient Greek word diabolos) also not the same person, or one person