Canada’s province of Ontario will slap a 25% export tax on electricity it sends to 1.5 million homes in Minnesota, Michigan and New York, in retaliation for President Trump’s tariffs, said Doug Ford, Ontario’s leader.

Ford added that he will direct the province’s energy producers to shut down the exports entirely if Trump moves ahead with even more tariffs on April 2. He said he would direct his minister of energy to redirect energy from an Ontario nuclear reactor to local manufacturers instead.

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      This is what he originally wanted to do. My guess is that the engineers said it ain’t gonna happen.

      If you disconnect a big part of the grid then you end up with way too much power being produced for the rest of the grid. If you aren’t able to shut down generators in time then you can severely damage the equipment on the grid and cause cascading failures that take down the entire grid.

      One major outage I remember was the 2003 Northeast Blackout. I recall having to barbecue dinner for a couple of days while waiting for power to be restarted. Had to spend a lot of time outside because the indoor heat was brutal without air conditioning!

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        Well yeah; you don’t just flip a switch and disconnect at a whim, you’ve got to reduce generation in sync with shedding load to keep the grid balanced. It can and should still be done though.

        The problem is producers ofc don’t want to shut down, that’s lost profit for them. I think they should bear it in support of Canada’s independence though.

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      Start by cutting the power for a few minutes at a time over several days. Do it during the work day to minimize the effect to people at home and maximize the disruption for businesses and industry.

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        Turning on and shuting down energy ptoduction is not as simple as flopping a switch.

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          You don’t shut down the generator. You just stop it flowing across the border.

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            Load and production must match at all times or your frequency will drift and everything breaks.

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      Oh yeah? We’ll just build coal plants next to the border. Naa naaa.

      /s … I hope. Shouldn’t give them ideas…

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        Actions have consequences.

        If America wants to void agreements and attack it’s allies, fine; we won’t be allies. Lay in the bed you’ve made.

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          Ha. This bed is getting really itchy. “Move to Canada” is becoming a common phrase around our household.

          Donny Dumbass is really fucking up everything. Scam and collapse is the point.

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            Better do it quick before diplomatic relations get so bad Canada closes the border.

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            I’m currently waiting for visa stuff to process, but I’ve already decided to make that move. I’m fucking tired of wasting my energy on a failed nation that doesn’t even recognize me as a person.

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      Export tax is good. Trump thinks he can pick and choose what his consumers pay extra tax on, by having energy lower than other things. An export tax shows him he can’t.

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    This is exactly what needs to happen. Holy fuck, the stopped clock was right for once.

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    Our next step up should be cutting the power for a few minutes at a time over several days. Do it during the work day to minimize the effect to people at home and maximize the disruption for businesses and industry.

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      We need to drop the 100-300% import tax and antidumping duties on Chinese panels the Liberals imposed about a decade ago.

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    This is what Trump was hoping for. He gets to punch blue states and turn them to red states. I’m not saying they shouldn’t do it, just saying it’s a big win for DJT.

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      Many actions are targeted at red states. But sometimes the weapons you have are the weapons you have.

      And, really, whatever US internal politics are, this is an act of war by the US against Canada. I think few will lose sleep about making any American bleed right now. Hopefully it wakes those blue states up to start really taking action.

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      I know places in northen states that still have confederate flags. Those places are gonna get hit as well. It would be real fun to see those countries turn blue over this.