• FfaerieOxide
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    11 year ago

    This is notably different than the CSA, as CSA officers were openly and publicly members of an organization that openly and publicly waged a war against the US.

    What do you call storming an election certification and killing a cop?

    • Schadrach
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      11 year ago

      I’m not arguing that Jan 6 isn’t an insurrection. I’m arguing that Trump was too much of a pussy to openly and publicly lead it himself.

      His speech at the rally that came before the march that came before the attack almost certainly is 1A protected speech and not incitement in part because the bar for incitement in the US is extremely high. Virtually anything short of “Hey you, go do this crime right now!” fails to be incitement.

      He beat feet before the next part happened though. You can’t point to him openly and publicly leading the insurrection, because he didn’t - he probably organized and arranged it but not in a way that there is no question of fact. There’s a whole chain of steps necessary to get from random in the Capitol on Jan 6 to Trump, and most of those intermediate steps are not in the open.

      There was no question of fact with the CSA officers blocked from holding office though - they were public officials in an organization engaged in open war against the union.