• JesusChristLover420
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    3 days ago

    The billionaire class are so very clever about how they control the opposition to their fascist goals. See, they donate to Democrat campaigns of candidates like Harris who suck at their jobs. Then ordinary people do the work for them, by posting on the internet about how the Democrats suck. And thanks to the ordinary people who’ve been manipulated into spreading bourgeois propaganda that promotes apathy, Republicans win and pass tax cuts for the rich and hire more cops to beat up protesters and prevent the revolution.

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      I kinda think the general population is and has been apathetic long before we had an internet to post on. We’re screaming into the void and/or doing collective journal entries, depending on how bleakly you want to frame this. In so far as political posting online matters, it’s as a way of affirming to one another that, no, we’re not crazy just for noticing the contradictions or having a historical memory longer than a single year.

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        And the mental health benefits are worth the downsides of spreading Bourgeois propaganda? The rich want you to think so, but the anarchists haven’t been taking the bait.

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          Sorry if I’m misunderstanding, but are you suggesting that it’s Bourgeois propaganda to recognize and talk about the similarities between political parties in the United States?

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            No, not when the terms be phrased so delicately as you have just done. But I notice among certain communities, that anger stirs at the failure of Democrats to do anything, which is employed in further barring the Democrats from doing anything. I am certain this is by the design of some skilful propagandists, who have engineered our society in such a way that our very outrage is made our undoing.

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              Here’s the thing, why would you ever assume that the Democratic party has ever had an interest in ‘doing anything’? They are the ones who, when granted the political writ, doubled down on neoliberal economics and funding the war machine back in 2010. And you can go back even further to see that they are always, always doing similar things, no matter what the political mood of the country is. All they do, and literally what they tell you they do is ‘Be the Republicans but smarter.’

              What if I’m not interested in that? Then it isn’t in my interest to vote for the Democrats and this supposed propaganda isn’t my personal undoing.

              The Democrats don’t do things for people because the party is literally defined by ripping out the levers and mechanisms of power that make the party even mildly accountable to the people, as people became even mildly radicalized. The Republicans, on the other hand, appear very accountable to their base because what their base wants is good for capital. If their base suddenly didn’t want those things, they would be cut out just as fast as the Democrats did to theirs (Which btw we are starting to see in real time wrt Zionism within the party.)

              It’s not bourgeois propaganda, it’s literally just having a memory longer than the last year. Truth is the most effective propaganda.

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                Doing nothing is better than doing concentration camps. And yes, the Democrats are to blame for not stopping the concentration camps by doing something, but blame isn’t going to make that problem better, it’s just going to accelerate the problem, because their entire tactic is to be blamed.

                What we need to do is think about the future, not the past. The right question isn’t “who is bad, who can I hate?” That’s not going to help. It’s going to help with Being Right, but Being Right only saves the world if it’s accompanied by Doing Right. You need to think about the consequences of your actions. This isn’t debate club, this is politics. You’re not just a spectator judging from the sidelines, you’re in this. You have choices to make.

                You and I both want a revolution, so start from that goal, not from looking at the past. How do we get a revolution? We need to build a leftist movement and gradually escalate direct action. That takes time. We need to buy time. We need to slow down fascism enough that we can revolt faster than they can genocide. We do that by foiling the Democrats’ conspiracy to lose.

                We need intelligence AND wisdom. Figuring out who the bad guys are is step 1. Step 2 isn’t hating them, step 2 is stopping them.

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                  They didn’t just not close down the concentration camps, they expanded the concentration camps! The fascism is here, you can’t slow it down, it is all around you, you breathe it in every day, so much so that you can’t tell the stench. Don’t lecture me on the steps when you can’t even do step one. I know who my enemies are, do you?

                  You can’t foil the Democrats conspiracy to lose because when they win they will still just do fascism, just more quietly and competently so people like you stop mewling. They actively square the circle of imperialist politics. If you can’t organize while the savagery and contradictions are open and apparent, you will never be able to organize when a Democrat is in charge obfuscating the process.