Asked about the violence in an interview with the Guardian, he said: “I can’t judge things of that enormity from where I am as mayor of Greater Manchester.”
Only for the similarly Israel funded Reform to win, because while we keep fighting on whether the next candidate is anti-Israel enough, Reform manages to unite the dumbfucks of the country.
And if Brexit has proven anything it’s that the damn country has way too many dumbfucks who’ll gladly throw away everything just so a guy who blames the “right” people for the country’s troubles gets to be PM.
So, lesser of two evils is the game? If that’s the game we’re playing, than will you be voting for Reform or Conservative? Because we can’t vote for third parties like Labour. That would be throwing your vote away. The two top parties in the UK right now are Reform and Conservative. If you believe that red lines don’t matter, and that all that matters is choosing between one of the two parties that will win, then that means your choice currently is between Reform or Conservative. Labour is a third party. Labour is not a valid choice for anyone trying to be strategic and choose the lesser of two evils.
So, will you be voting Reform or Conservative next election? Or suddenly will the lesser evil no longer apply?
The only way anyone can support Labour right now is if they reject the lesser evil approach. Of course, if you do that, then you have no place whining about the red lines other voters have.
The two top parties in the UK right now are Reform and Conservative
That’s untrue by any measure.
If reform is top by voting intention, conservatives are third or fourth. If conservatives are top by MPs, reform are sixth or seventh.
But it is true that actual Nati slogan-repeating racist, muslim-hating Nigel Farage has been polling highest, and it’s legitimate to worry about him doing in the uk and the middle east what trump is doing in America and the middle east.
It’s Reform as the clear favorite, with Labor and the Conservatives dueling for the third spot, and the Conservatives have been ahead most frequently in recent polls.
the Conservatives have been ahead most frequently in recent polls
According to the graph, that was true for a month in December last year and for most of the graph labour were leading the conservatives by a clear margin.
So, I reiterate, your claim that the UK is a two horse race between reform and the tories is untrue by any measure.
And it’s especially not a strong argument if you’d rather I vote green than labour.
Wanted to say the same. From the frying pan into the fire. Labour will get wrecked in the next elections.
Only for the similarly Israel funded Reform to win, because while we keep fighting on whether the next candidate is anti-Israel enough, Reform manages to unite the dumbfucks of the country.
And if Brexit has proven anything it’s that the damn country has way too many dumbfucks who’ll gladly throw away everything just so a guy who blames the “right” people for the country’s troubles gets to be PM.
I’m sorry that I draw the line at genocide.
The “I’m flexible when it comes to child mass murder abroad if that stops the far-right for 4/5 more years here” crowd are something else.
That’s not having any Morals or Principles beyond “what in it for me”.
Same here, we are the worst. Basically we’re terrorists for resisting fascism and genocide. We should be ashamed of our racism.
anywho… should we make tshirts? bbq maybe?
i mean, people could try voting Green, no ? fascist or fascist lite it is ffs
So why you are giving reform and easy win? Labour is to blame of reform wins
Because the alternative is to criticize Israel, and that’s so impossible for him to consider that he’d sooner hand the UK over to fascists.
I agree. Labours weakness in recognizing that a more leftist oriented stance is needed will be a windfall for the Reform Nazis.
So, lesser of two evils is the game? If that’s the game we’re playing, than will you be voting for Reform or Conservative? Because we can’t vote for third parties like Labour. That would be throwing your vote away. The two top parties in the UK right now are Reform and Conservative. If you believe that red lines don’t matter, and that all that matters is choosing between one of the two parties that will win, then that means your choice currently is between Reform or Conservative. Labour is a third party. Labour is not a valid choice for anyone trying to be strategic and choose the lesser of two evils.
So, will you be voting Reform or Conservative next election? Or suddenly will the lesser evil no longer apply?
The only way anyone can support Labour right now is if they reject the lesser evil approach. Of course, if you do that, then you have no place whining about the red lines other voters have.
That’s untrue by any measure.
If reform is top by voting intention, conservatives are third or fourth. If conservatives are top by MPs, reform are sixth or seventh.
But it is true that actual Nati slogan-repeating racist, muslim-hating Nigel Farage has been polling highest, and it’s legitimate to worry about him doing in the uk and the middle east what trump is doing in America and the middle east.
I’m talking about actual poll results:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
It’s Reform as the clear favorite, with Labor and the Conservatives dueling for the third spot, and the Conservatives have been ahead most frequently in recent polls.
Labour.
According to the graph, that was true for a month in December last year and for most of the graph labour were leading the conservatives by a clear margin.
So, I reiterate, your claim that the UK is a two horse race between reform and the tories is untrue by any measure.
And it’s especially not a strong argument if you’d rather I vote green than labour.
Also consider the accuracy of polls three years in advance of an election.
Reform’s success is a problem, but an even worse problem is reinforcing the narrative that their success is inevitable.