A retired Aurora police sergeant faces criminal charges for raping his daughter and continually sexually assaulting her and his two adopted daughters, but he remains free from custody while his ex-wife is in jail for objecting to court-ordered reunification therapy meant to repair his relationship with two of his sons.

  • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    This has always been the way of conservatism. Always.

    I have relatives in a rather conservative setting where swearing in presence of women is very bad, swearing at women is just dangerous, beating women is, well, not acceptable. Rape (with people knowing about it) means surrendering to the law is the rapist’s best option.

    Christianity differs in various places of our planet and so on.

    It’s still annoying to explain to my aunt that a single F-word in an article doesn’t mean it’s not worth reading further. I have not been successful in that, too.

    • @Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      I hear you. I used to resent despise religion. But then I spent time around progressives who happened to be Christian. They behaved in exactly the opposite ways conservative religious people are known to behave. I’m from the south. We just don’t see that down here. It really caused me to think about the effect of conservatism on religion.

      I think the more conservative a person is, with or without religion, the more cruel, inhumane or sociopathic that person is. One can accurately determine a person’s level of conservatism just by observing the severity of these traits. Religion seems to amplify these conservative traits, but it doesn’t always predict them in my experience.

      • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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        24 months ago

        Immoral people try to coerce any ideology to support them. As in “throwing something at the wall and hoping it sticks”. As in “many statements contradictory between themselves”.

        That’s how Israelis play conservatism, for example. If most people interested in conservatism and Christianity are that, then the most visible conservatives/Christians will be such people.

        I think conservatism just doesn’t have much to attract sincere people in most settings.

    • tb_
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      54 months ago

      The issue often is that, just because it’s outwardly frowned upon, it doesn’t mean it won’t happen behind closed doors.

      Which isn’t to say any of your relatives are bad people, but a culture where speaking up is frowned upon encourages victims to hide their abuse.

      • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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        14 months ago

        but a culture where speaking up is frowned upon encourages victims to hide their abuse.

        It’s not. It’s a different part of the world with a different kind of conservatism.

        I wrote and deleted an anecdote, point is - it’s not a Western atomized society, extended family and friends and various other social ties play a bigger role and all of those help the victim more than the abuser in such an event. Unless we are talking about some hopelessly poor village.

        Frankly if those ties would work the same in Western “conservative” settings, those would probably improve over time.