The Supreme Court ruled Friday in favor of an Oregon city that ticketed homeless people for sleeping outside, rejecting arguments that such “anti-camping” ordinances violate the Constitution’s ban on “cruel and unusual” punishment.
@hapablap@Amoxtli I agree with you partially here. The causes of homelessness should be addressed before it is criminalized.
However, harshly cutting off drug supplies and making it easier for people who, for example, have criminal records, to get jobs, would be a better way to start than building in incentives for people to stay homeless.
You’d be surprised by how many people are literally homeless just because they got hooked on drugs.
What do you mean incentives to stay homeless? Does this include anything that reduces the discomfort of homelessness like food and medical care? I don’t have statistics about the number of homeless that actually choose to be homeless, which sounds like an impossible question to answer because. It seems likely that any homeless person would want an improvement to their lifestyle of some kind. Given the option of becoming a homeless drug addict versus not, what right-minded person would make that choice? It just isn’t a choice. Certainly, once you’re a homeless drug addict it really isn’t a choice anymore. A homeless drug addict can’t just decide not be a homeless drug addict. In fact I’d wager that once you’re a homeless drug addict, if you become housed it’s a lot harder to remain so. If a homeless drug addict becomes clean, it’s a lot harder for them to remain so. Virtually no one would choose that lifestyle. If it is such a great choice then choose it yourself!
> Does this include anything that reduces the discomfort of homelessness like food and medical care?
Food yes, medical care no. To be clear, I’m not opposed to existing support systems and homeless shelters as they exist today, especially since the shelters require people to stay clean IIRC. But we don’t need to be throwing them into the #RitzCarlton, that incentivizes them to stay homeless.
> It seems likely that any homeless person would want an improvement to their lifestyle of some kind.
Drug addicts want one thing: more drugs.
> A homeless drug addict can’t just decide not be a homeless drug addict.
Right, which is why more needs to be done to get drugs off the street.
I know a dude who once was a homeless drug addict who ended up quitting drugs because his parents had him move back in with them in #Africa and the only drug they have there is #weed
@hapablap @Amoxtli I agree with you partially here. The causes of homelessness should be addressed before it is criminalized.
However, harshly cutting off drug supplies and making it easier for people who, for example, have criminal records, to get jobs, would be a better way to start than building in incentives for people to stay homeless.
You’d be surprised by how many people are literally homeless just because they got hooked on drugs.
What do you mean incentives to stay homeless? Does this include anything that reduces the discomfort of homelessness like food and medical care? I don’t have statistics about the number of homeless that actually choose to be homeless, which sounds like an impossible question to answer because. It seems likely that any homeless person would want an improvement to their lifestyle of some kind. Given the option of becoming a homeless drug addict versus not, what right-minded person would make that choice? It just isn’t a choice. Certainly, once you’re a homeless drug addict it really isn’t a choice anymore. A homeless drug addict can’t just decide not be a homeless drug addict. In fact I’d wager that once you’re a homeless drug addict, if you become housed it’s a lot harder to remain so. If a homeless drug addict becomes clean, it’s a lot harder for them to remain so. Virtually no one would choose that lifestyle. If it is such a great choice then choose it yourself!
@hapablap
> Does this include anything that reduces the discomfort of homelessness like food and medical care?
Food yes, medical care no. To be clear, I’m not opposed to existing support systems and homeless shelters as they exist today, especially since the shelters require people to stay clean IIRC. But we don’t need to be throwing them into the #RitzCarlton, that incentivizes them to stay homeless.
@hapablap
> It seems likely that any homeless person would want an improvement to their lifestyle of some kind.
Drug addicts want one thing: more drugs.
> A homeless drug addict can’t just decide not be a homeless drug addict.
Right, which is why more needs to be done to get drugs off the street.
I know a dude who once was a homeless drug addict who ended up quitting drugs because his parents had him move back in with them in #Africa and the only drug they have there is #weed
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