Yes. Make sure you’re installing the beta, they never really release stable anymore from what I can tall.

Unfortunately, that might just mean that this is when the truly scary part begins, as they start trying to keep a grasp on their dreams of absolute power.

I was thinking the same with my 7840u. Could try something a bit more cutting edge than Mint, though I will admit I have no idea how up to date they keep the kernel these days. Though if they live boot, they’re removing the SSD and likely qtile from the equation, so it’s a bit tricky to isolate.

I came up using primarily Fluxbox and XFCE, and could tolerate Gnome 2. Had a love/hate relationship with Gnome 3 for awhile. Never really liked any version of KDE, but…

I used Cosmic for about a year, just switched to KDE last weekend. For me, Cosmic is the first Wayland DE to hit that sweet spot of lightweight window manager feel, with a few conveniences like integrated panels, notification bus (which is bidirectional, unlike KDE’s), small application suite, and some useful applets. I’m always tempted to go back and roll my own with LabWC and god knows what at this point, because it’s not quite what I want ideally, but it’s quite good.

It’s still a bit buggy, recently I started having an issue where windows would lose their position and size after minimizing and restoring. I’ve long had that issue after unlock. Others feel differently, but tiling has never been great for me, I hope they rework it, or introduce more customizable snapping without the rigidity of full tiling.

But it’s lightweight and clean, fairly customizable (compared to Gnome, not KDE), and generally sane. We’ll see how Budgie and XFCE come along on Wayland, they both have a far more mature DE as a whole, but Cosmic does have a head start on Wayland, and has the benefit of being a fresh code base.

I’m hoping Cosmic, along with the lightweight DE ports (?) to Wayland, kick start development of more lighter weight, non-DE-centric applications with native Wayland support.

It just blows my mind that Gnome isn’t good on a tablet, when the whole damned UI seems to make compromises with multi-monitor capability so that it can be consistent across tablet and desktop/laptop. Gnome has such a nice look and feel, too bad the devs are hell bent on making it unusable for the majority of users in an effort to make it suitable for a majority of users.

Yes, but CachyOS might not be, and while it does a bit to make things substantially easier for your friend, you’ll have a lot of familiarity with it as an Arch user.

Source: An Arch user for 15 years who just installed CachyOS when I wanted to switch from Cosmic to KDE.

In my experience, it’s usually power users or basic users with very specific application requirements, who have trouble moving between operating systems. There’s usually a FOSS alternative to those applications, but often requires reworking a workflow or upskilling more than they want to. But they’re still basic users so it’s more a speed bump than a road block.

So yeah, most people can switch to MacOS without an issue, and the vast majority of those can switch to a distro like Fedora or Ubuntu and quickly feel comfortable.

Power users get stuck in this situation where they’ve learned how to do advanced things in Windows, have things tweaked to support more complex and peculiar workflows, but often don’t understand the actual concepts behind them. And even if they do understand the concepts, they still have to learn the alternatives in a new OS, and rebuild their workflows. Now, there’s a lot more ability to learn behind the scenes about the why and how with Linux and BSD, so I’d argue they’d be better off to just suck it up and get started, and they’ll be better off before long.

I’m with you. I’ve never really liked the look of QT, but I think I’m going to go for it anyway. It’s always felt more plasticky and artificial, compared to GTK feeling more grounded and earthy. Plus, KDE has always felt cluttered in every way they can clutter it. So I was into the boxes (I was partial to fluxbox) and XFCE back in the day. Played with Gnome 3 a bit, had a cyclical love and ultimately hate relationship with it, but got hung up on Gnome as the best option when I wanted to switch to Wayland.

I’ve been using Cosmic since January, and I like it, but I’m left wanting more out of it. I was thinking of spinning my own environment with LabWC, but… meh. It’s a lot of work, and I want something more integrated.

I’ve been using KDE in Asahi on my Macbook Air a bit, and I guess I could use it more. But I don’t really use that machine a ton, either. Mostly for it’s better speakers than my Thinkpad, and I have it connecting a VPN automatically until I can be bothered to switch from iwd/systemd to network manager on my primary.

God I wish Gnome would change it’s tune, and stop being so militantly simplistic. The idea of extensions is great, but using a rolling release distro is rough when you’re relying on a bunch of extensions to make your DE suitable. I really like their approach to UX at it’s foundation. Cosmic is showing a lot of promise, and has that configurability built in, and I do look forward to where it goes. but it’s going to have this problem where a lot of the software that looks best in it is libadwaita, which enforces drastically different UX.

Ah, now I remember why I bought the Macbook.

I did a stint on Mint Mobile for 2 months while I was experimenting with jmp.chat, ported back to US Mobile on Verizon last week. As a bonus, Graphene got Verizon’s visual voicemail working while I was away, still can’t get T-Mobile’s working without their crappy app.

There are huuuuuuge gaps in T-Mobile in the north woods, which honestly, I’m kind of ok with since I’m looking to start using my phone mostly through KDE Connect. But visual voicemail has been a sticking point for me for awhile. Satellite is interesting to be sure, but it’s going to double my US Mobile bill at $10 for 2GB if I remember their pricing correctly. That’s not a huge deal, but for something with very limited capabilities at the moment… eh. Also, fuck Elon Musk.

I’ll see what happens with Graphene’s phone, or if I give in and buy a Fairphone. I really want an SD card for music. I’m less than thrilled with DAPs, and might just get a Fairphone with a dongle running Lineage for that, while I continue using my Pixel 8 on Graphene as my phone for now. I’d love to merge the two, though.

Also considering an Xperia to run Sailfish, but I’d have to go back to I think an Xperia 10 OG version to get band 13 and Verizon support. That’s a 6 year old phone, and only supports 512GB SD cards. Might actually be able to mount larger, especially in Sailfish, but… I’ll see if I can get one cheap maybe.

Man, I really hope they’re the manufacturing partner GrapheneOS is talking about, or they at least include Verizon support on future models. T-mobile just doesn’t do it for me out in the middle of the forest.

I know, but it’s looking more and more like there won’t be an alternative for long. I’d rather have a consortium of interests united in moving a fork forward as the core for all of their own OS’s.

I really wish Sony would come back to the US market. I’m tempted to get an older Xperia device to run Sailfish, but it would be like 4-5 years old, and it’s time on the Verizon network would be limited.

It’s on the N350, and is going to be pretty limited, though well supported in mainline.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/241638/intel-core-3-processor-n350-6m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz/specifications.html

Honestly, I don’t know if having play services running in a profile that can be deleted would pass that standard for certification. Probably not, I guess.

As for being a fork, I mean the larger community of Graphene, Lineage, Calyx if it continues to exist, and probably a couple Chinese manufacturers who rely on AOSP to manage a fork that is collaboratively developed going forward, that no longer relies on Google’s maintenance of the project.

That’s definitely one way I’ve been looking, the hinge makes it enough tablet for me probably. Though the Starlite is passively cooled, which I really like. Right now I just have two laptops, a Thinkpad P14s and an M1 Macbook Air running Asahi. My ideal would probably be to go back to a desktop, and then have something like a passively cooled ARM or RISC V (obviously anticipating the future on both of those) Framework 12. Or even an N350 in a passive Framework 12, like in the Starlite. This would be more of a writing/browsing/video machine for when I’m lazing around or out at a coffee shop or whatever.

Ah well, the P14s is fine for now, and RAM is too damned expensive to buy anything right now anyway.

Last I checked, they’ll pre-install any number of distros. I just… I don’t know what I’d use it for that justified a separate device from a laptop. Maybe once I get home assistant setup in my new place, but even then… what I’m really wanting is a Linux phone that I can use on Verizon’s network. But even there, I’m tending towards moving to my cell phone sitting on the charger 95% of the time, and using kdeconnect.

That seems to be their mid-term strategy, release their own certified device. That should have some interesting implications on safetynet attestation, too.

I still think we need a fork of AOSP, before the community atrophies any further.

I keep looking at the Starlite, it’s recently upgraded to an N350. But every time I’m about to pull the trigger, I can’t come up with enough use case.

I don’t know, a true conservative should be opposing attacks on the institution of our government. And any gerrymandering is an attack on that institution. But I haven’t followed him, has he come out with any proper long term solutions? Seems to me, at a federal level we need to do things like lift the artificial cap on number of representatives, limit surface area to volume of districts, and limit concavity of district lines.

But I also recognize the urgency of the moment, and I respect that Prop 50 has limited the blast radius and time in effect.

I guess my major issue is that unifying discussions shouldn’t be behind closed doors, and it certainly shouldn’t be around anything and everything one person or group of people says. Both of those things are dangerous, and it’s partially in contrast to those dangerous forms of unity that Democrats seem so disjointed.

Another part of it is that the Republican party has been going off the rails for decades now, and that’s brought the Democratic party further right as people jumped ship to it. With the party representing such a large spectrum, it’s understandable that there’s more diversity in opinion. Two parties are already not enough, but when you cram more of the political landscape into just the one, well, here we are. It makes it even harder to stand up to what caused it in the first place.

Though that still pales in comparison to the problems of money in politics and lack of term limits, and many other things I’d consider in different layers.