• @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    1314 months ago

    Netanyahu: “Please stop withholding weapons and support, please seriously guys cut it out”

    TIME Magazine: “Is Netanyahu dragging out the conflict for political benefit?”

    Biden: “There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion.”

    Kamala Harris: “I will not be silent.”

    Hexbear: “Congress gives Netanyahu Standing Ovation, blood on hands of every US lawmaker, US President personally responsible for tens of thousands of deaths directly.”

    • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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      2234 months ago

      Did you watch the video?

      Republicans gave Netanyahu a standing ovation.

      Dozens of Democrats abstained, the ones who attended remained seated, and Rashida Tlaib held up a sign that said “war criminal.”

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          4 months ago

          As you should. I saw all the memes before watching the video, and was happy to see that it wasn’t the “four-minute standing ovation” I kept hearing about when I finally watched it.

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          Sure, fuck hexbear…but congress literally did give a standing ovation to a mass murderer, there is no getting around that reality. That’s not me, it was literally on NPR. Biden is a staunch supporter of mass murder who has blood on his hands.

          Hexbear being full of tankies doesn’t make it ok to support genocide.

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            Apart from all the members of congress who remained seated, as was already mentioned. I’m guessing neither AOC nor Bernie Sanders stood up and applauded if they were there.

              • Flying SquidM
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                194 months ago

                Okay, so condemn the ones who were and don’t act like it was unanimous.

                • @retrospectology@lemmy.world
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                  34 months ago

                  No one said it was unanimous. It was still hundreds of sitting members of congress, both democrats and republicans.

                  And people do try to condemn the specific members of our government who support the genocide, like Joe Biden. And you know what happens? People like you pop-up and defend them and deflect.

                  You literally just spent the entirety of yesterday trying to get me to shut up about condemning genocide support and talking about holding genocide supporters politically accountable.

                  • Flying SquidM
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                    04 months ago

                    No, I did not literally do that at all. In any way. That’s just a lie. I have never tried to get you or anyone else to shut up about condemning genocide.

                    Why are you lying?

            • @retrospectology@lemmy.world
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              114 months ago

              Yes, but Republicans are given. Half of Democrats also joined in, that’s the problem. The Democratic party needs to be in opposition to zionism like it’s meant to be opposed to every other form of fascism.

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                104 months ago

                It’s not a given. Lemmy is under a constant barrage of comments only attacking Biden and the Dems for supporting Isreal and therefore genocide. The blame is only put on Biden and the Dems.

                Keeping perspective of how much worse the Republicans are in this specific regard if extremely imperious during this election. Being critical of the Dems is fine, but keeping the real context is vital.

                The objective of these users who only criticize the Dems is clear. Stop falling for it.

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                    44 months ago

                    They aren’t in charge, they aren’t even able to pass laws without republican support, and Republicans are so fractured they can’t even make salient policy objectives in exchange for support.

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              I didn’t equate voting dem as genocide support. If you vote for a zionist though, that is active support of genocide. In that situation you’re signaling to the party that it’s acceptable to have genocide supporters in the party, as long as the other option is “worse”.

              That’s a calculation you’re free to weigh for yourself, but it is still genocide support. Same way voting for an openly racist politician is in support of racism.

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                  Being opposed to genocide supporters is not a “talking point” it’s not a “trick”. Genocide is simply against the very core of my belief about how we’re meant to treat other human beings.

                  So when a Democrat supports genocide, I want them out of the party and I see those who choose to ignore that candidates genocidal views as complicit themselves as well since they are responsible for putting that person into as position of power despite knowing the ugly truth. Hopefully that’s clear enough for you to allow yourself to understand. It’s very odd to have to spell it out like this for you though.

                  Harris is not a zionist afaik.

                  Harris does not appear to be ideological like Biden, that is true and a promising sign, but that’s not really related to the point I’m making – while zionists like Biden and his supporters do obviously help keep the slaughter going, one doesn’t necessarily have to be a committed zionist to help fuel the genocide. One could choose to do it for any number of reasons (ex. cowardice, political convenience etc.), we will see if Harris’ actions match up with her rhetoric. She doesn’t get an automatic pass on being a moral human being, this isn’t a cult of personality like the GOP.

                  • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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                    44 months ago

                    That all makes it hard to say whether Harris would call herself a Zionist. But she has repeatedly expressed support for Israel’s existence as a Jewish state, favorably quoted from Herzl’s Zionist manifesto and raised money for the Jewish National Fund. source

          • @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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            04 months ago

            I find it hilarious whenever I call them that they start wailing about homophobia, lol. Nobody insulted Eva Braun for sucking some guy off, the problem was that it was literally Hitler.